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Mike C says:
December 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm
It would be interesting for shits and giggles to run “toms” comments through one of those gender analyzer algorithms out on the web. The more I read tom, the more convinced I am tom really is a woman trying to play the “enlightened” male. Many particular aspects of this latest comment really point in that direction to me.
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Now, “tom”, I’m not going to dissect your entire comment. Let me say something. I agree with you that it is hypocritical to hold male promiscuity and female promiscuity to not totally identical standards. That said, I don’t necessarily view hypocrisy as automatically a pejorative. Fact of the matter is human existance is full of hypocrisy, much of it warranted by common sense. We wouldn’t hold women to the same standards on the battlefield during war as men. The sexes are different. Biologically, hormonally, etc. This notion that everything must be an absolutely equivalent standard really is post-modernist tripe
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There really is only one part of your comment I want to address because it is a non-sequitur and attempt at obfuscation. If there is one thing that really annoys me in discussion/debate it is attempts at obfuscation of the main point
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Sure some women will lie about their past. Not because they regreat what they did necessasarly, but because they understand the double standard hypocricy that exsists.
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The issue here is NOT one of regret versus double standard of hypocrisy.
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Your position, and Jess’s position, and the position I see amongst many, many women is that only INSECURE, JUDGEMENTAL, IMMATURE men care about this issue, and they are a MINORITY of men. If you are woman looking for a “quality” man who is NOT insecure, judgemental, immature, there is absolutely no reason to lie because the quality man won’t care one bit anyways. Why lie about something that is inconsequential to your target market? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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And because it is “only a minority of men” who aren’t comfortable with a LTR with a promiscuous women, there are still PLENTY of guys who won’t care at all.
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You see, lying serves no pragmatic purpose. Again, you want to tell the truth, because you want those “judgemental, immature, stunted” guys to hit the road ASAP.
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So again, lying about this makes no sense UNLESS…..UNLESS that position above is a complete, total, utter crock of shit in that the pool of guys who don’t care is in fact really small, and comprises what most people would consider quality men. In that case, lying becomes a pragmatic necessity because if you don’t lie, the pool of guys to ensnare for a longer-term committment dwindles dramatically.
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Now please address this specific point as I have laid it out. Explain to me the pragmatic necessity of lying if only “judgement jerks who are in the minority” care.
Mike C says:
December 22, 2010 at 4:57 pm
One more thing,
57 Ways to Meet the Love of Your Life
When Female Aggression Turns Deadly
Recognizing the Real Relationship Deal
Can a Manwhore Ever Really Settle Down, Even If He Wants To?
Adonis Effect Review… You Can’t Be Serious!
How To Avoid Craigslist Casual Encounters Scams
NO MORE MACHU PICCHU!
Mike C says:
December 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm
It would be interesting for shits and giggles to run “toms” comments through one of those gender analyzer algorithms out on the web. The more I read tom, the more convinced I am tom really is a woman trying to play the “enlightened” male. Many particular aspects of this latest comment really point in that direction to me.
.
Now, “tom”, I’m not going to dissect your entire comment. Let me say something. I agree with you that it is hypocritical to hold male promiscuity and female promiscuity to not totally identical standards. That said, I don’t necessarily view hypocrisy as automatically a pejorative. Fact of the matter is human existance is full of hypocrisy, much of it warranted by common sense. We wouldn’t hold women to the same standards on the battlefield during war as men. The sexes are different. Biologically, hormonally, etc. This notion that everything must be an absolutely equivalent standard really is post-modernist tripe
.
There really is only one part of your comment I want to address because it is a non-sequitur and attempt at obfuscation. If there is one thing that really annoys me in discussion/debate it is attempts at obfuscation of the main point
.
Sure some women will lie about their past. Not because they regreat what they did necessasarly, but because they understand the double standard hypocricy that exsists.
.
The issue here is NOT one of regret versus double standard of hypocrisy.
.
Your position, and Jess’s position, and the position I see amongst many, many women is that only INSECURE, JUDGEMENTAL, IMMATURE men care about this issue, and they are a MINORITY of men. If you are woman looking for a “quality” man who is NOT insecure, judgemental, immature, there is absolutely no reason to lie because the quality man won’t care one bit anyways. Why lie about something that is inconsequential to your target market? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
.
And because it is “only a minority of men” who aren’t comfortable with a LTR with a promiscuous women, there are still PLENTY of guys who won’t care at all.
.
You see, lying serves no pragmatic purpose. Again, you want to tell the truth, because you want those “judgemental, immature, stunted” guys to hit the road ASAP.
.
So again, lying about this makes no sense UNLESS…..UNLESS that position above is a complete, total, utter crock of shit in that the pool of guys who don’t care is in fact really small, and comprises what most people would consider quality men. In that case, lying becomes a pragmatic necessity because if you don’t lie, the pool of guys to ensnare for a longer-term committment dwindles dramatically.
.
Now please address this specific point as I have laid it out. Explain to me the pragmatic necessity of lying if only “judgement jerks who are in the minority” care.
Mike C says:
December 22, 2010 at 4:57 pm
One more thing,